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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Jun 7 @ 6:08 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Kesler, Kapanen, Meszaros Conditional Pick
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 6:25 AM ET
I agree, I would not trade Brayden Schenn for Kesler.
RobFlyers#1
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.22.2009

Jun 7 @ 6:31 AM ET
I agree Bill. For What it would cost the Flyers to acquire Kesler does he make the Flyers that much better? I don't think so.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 7:44 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Kesler, Kapanen, Meszaros Conditional Pick
- bmeltzer


All very good points on why Kesler is a bad idea for the Flyers. Unless they are able to move Lecavalier(either in the deal for Kesler or not) and Brayden Schenn(in a deal for defense help) which creates a bit of a hole at 2nd line C, there's no sense in it.

Even if they move both Vinny & B Schenn, I'd rather see Couturier given a crack at 2nd C before they add another vet
twpguy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2010

Jun 7 @ 7:49 AM ET
Flyers need to move 1 or 2 bad contracts. Vinny is one. Hartnell and Streit are 2 more.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 7:59 AM ET
Flyers need to move 1 or 2 bad contracts. Vinny is one. Hartnell and Streit are 2 more.
- twpguy


If Streit plays like he did in the second half of the season, his contract isn't an issue at all.
RobFlyers#1
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.22.2009

Jun 7 @ 8:04 AM ET
Flyers need to move 1 or 2 bad contracts. Vinny is one. Hartnell and Streit are 2 more.
- twpguy


I don't get the problem with Streit? 44 points from the backend is alright by me. In my opinion he is their best puck moving defencemen.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 7 @ 8:26 AM ET
Flyers need to move 1 or 2 bad contracts. Vinny is one. Hartnell and Streit are 2 more.
- twpguy


Contracts I hate that should be considered in trades, in order:

Hartnell, Vinny, Grossman

Also, I've come to the conclusion that two pieces we need to realistically be ready to part with are Laughton and Coburn.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 8:37 AM ET
I don't see a fit for Kesler in Phi.Canucks have absolutely no use for Lecavalier.

I know Flyers are balls against the wall with the cap this year and I do Hope Canucks offer sheet Brayden Schenn for an amount that has the Flyers thinking whether they should accept or not. I can also see Nashville giving a little payback to the Flyers.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 7 @ 8:39 AM ET
No freaking Kesler

We are kings east now. New thinking


No freaking Kesler
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 7 @ 8:50 AM ET
I don't see a fit for Kesler in Phi.Canucks have absolutely no use for Lecavalier.

I know Flyers are balls against the wall with the cap this year and I do Hope Canucks offer sheet Brayden Schenn for an amount that has the Flyers thinking whether they should accept or not. I can also see Nashville giving a little payback to the Flyers.

- VANTEL


Not against the cap so bad we couldn't match a Schenn offer sheet.

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 8:52 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Kesler, Kapanen, Meszaros Conditional Pick
- bmeltzer


Don't think Kapanen will fall to #17..........maybe as far as the Red Wings.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 7 @ 8:57 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Kesler, Kapanen, Meszaros Conditional Pick
- bmeltzer


Agree on Kesler. There is a chance Couts is better than Kesler by next season. They both play a similar role. He just doesn't fit a need with this team.

Kapanen sounds like Matt Read with more offensive potential. I wouldn't mind that pick. Our team needs speed and wingers for the future. A player like Kapanen could be very valuable. It might be better to pick the safer guy in a draft with quite a bit of volatility.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 7 @ 8:57 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Kesler, Kapanen, Meszaros Conditional Pick
- bmeltzer


Jiri Sekac?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 8:58 AM ET
Not against the cap so bad we couldn't match a Schenn offer sheet.
- mochoson

Shows that you have 6 mil in space and a 17 man roster. You still need to sign 5 players and if Schenn is eating up 5 mil of the 6 mil cap space then you can't sign 4 more players for one mil. You would have to move contracts.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:00 AM ET
Shows that you have 6 mil in space and a 17 man roster. You still need to sign 5 players and if Schenn is eating up 5 mil of the 6 mil cap space then you can't sign 4 more players for one mil. You would have to move contracts.
- VANTEL


If Schenn wants $5 million in his next deal it shouldn't be coming from the Flyers
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 7 @ 9:02 AM ET
If Schenn wants $5 million in his next deal it shouldn't be coming from the Flyers
- ob18


If some team wants to offer 2 firsts a second and a third for schenn then go ahead
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 9:04 AM ET
If some team wants to offer 2 firsts a second and a third for schenn then go ahead
- PhillySportsGuy

It's a first and a third
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:05 AM ET
It's a first and a third
- VANTEL


I'd still take it, mainly because they'd be picks in the 2015 draft.

I still hope to sign him but at a much lower cap hit.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 7 @ 9:05 AM ET
Shows that you have 6 mil in space and a 17 man roster. You still need to sign 5 players and if Schenn is eating up 5 mil of the 6 mil cap space then you can't sign 4 more players for one mil. You would have to move contracts.
- VANTEL


If someone offer sheets Schenn 5+ mill well gladly take the picks. He deserves half of that money.

Either that, or we match and then trade him and Luke.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 7 @ 9:06 AM ET
Shows that you have 6 mil in space and a 17 man roster. You still need to sign 5 players and if Schenn is eating up 5 mil of the 6 mil cap space then you can't sign 4 more players for one mil. You would have to move contracts.
- VANTEL


They have Prongers LTIR if they need it. They plan on moving money anyway. They want to move VL and possibly one of the defenseman. That would potentially clear another 8-9M depending on how much of Vinnys deal they'd need to eat
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 9:06 AM ET
I'd still take it, mainly because they'd be picks in the 2015 draft.

I still hope to sign him but at a much lower cap hit.

- ob18

Then it's a win win . We get our top 6 forward and you get a first rounder for next year.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:07 AM ET
Then it's a win win . We get our top 6 forward and you get a first rounder for next year.
- VANTEL


Then suggest to your GM to toss out an offer sheet
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 9:07 AM ET
They have Prongers LTIR if they need it. They plan on moving money anyway. They want to move VL and possibly one of the defenseman. That would potentially clear another 8-9M depending on how much of Vinnys deal they'd need to eat
- PhillySportsGuy

I don't think they can take Prongers LTIR off until the season starts where they would need to be cap compliant
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
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Jun 7 @ 9:08 AM ET
It's a first and a third
- VANTEL


I would match that then look to trade him
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